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As China’s relationship with Hong Kong changes fundamentally and for the worse, the new episode of our coronavirus crisis podcast features Andreas Fulda, professor at the University of Nottingham, author of The Struggle for Democracy in Mainland China, Taiwan and Hong Kong, and the originator of an open letter criticizing China’s political and structural response to the outbreak of COVID within its borders. We spoke with Andreas about that response, why China acted the way it did, what that meant for its own citizens and for the world, and how to understand their posture now.